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Glass patterns

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 2:00 pm
by Vickie
Hello - do you have any tutorials or examples that would help me construct glass patterns?

Thank you.

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 10:29 pm
by psykinematix
This is actually quite simple, just create the following design:

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where the Gaussian dipoles are defined as follows:

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and the Glass patterns organization is specified using a MEF stimulus with the new "Glass Patterns" distribution option which makes sure that the dipoles orientation is tangent to concentric circles:

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The created stimulus should then look like:

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Hope this helps!

-- The Psykinematix Support Team

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:58 pm
by Vickie
Thank you - this was very helpful. To go a step further with this, it seems that I can vary the % signal by having a percentage of the dipoles with a glass distribution and the remaining percentage of dipoles as a random distribution. Is there a way to simultaneously vary these two percentages using a staircase procedure or method of constant stimuli to obtain a threshold?

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:11 pm
by psykinematix
If you define a variable 'coherence' as the dependent parameter of your method, then simply specify '[coherence]' for the % number of Glass dipoles and '100-[coherence]' for the % number of random dipoles!

-- The Psykinematix Support Team

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:20 am
by apedelay
Hi,

I used the above instructions to make a glass pattern stimuli and slotted it into a 2AFC procedure using a Bayesian method. Coherence (orientation jitter) is the judged parameter.

It works perfectly when using a temporal presentation but I need a spatial presentation. When set to this option the two glass patterns are laid over one another in the centre of the screen.

When I change the stimuli to something else (e.g. RDK Gaussian blob) the spatial presentation works a treat. Therefore I am sure it is something to do with the glass pattern stimuli. Is there something within the design that is overriding the spatial presentation and forcing the glass pattern stimuli to be presented over laid?

Do you know how I could achieve the spatial presentation using the glass pattern stimuli?

Many thanks,

Adam

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:04 pm
by psykinematix
This looks like a bug... We will investigate and fix it asap!

-- The Psykinematix Support Team

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:06 pm
by psykinematix
Indeed a bug: fixed in the forthcoming version 1.4! Thanks for reporting!!!

-- The Psykinematix Support Team

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:45 pm
by apedelay
Ok, cool.

Is it possible to get a patch or an update for the bug fix? I need to be able to run the described experiment in the next few weeks for a masters project.

Feel free to contact me at apedelay@gmail.com if that is easier.

Thanks,

Adam

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:06 am
by apedelay
Hi,

I'm having further problems with the Glass pattern experiment and am unsure if it's another bug or not. The last fix worked great.

I am now replicating the experiment first described but with the judged parameter now as contrast, not orientation jitter (2AFC procedure using a Bayesian method).

When the presentation type is temporal the experiment works fine - each glass pattern has a different contrast level. However, when the presentation type is spatial both glass patterns have the same contrast level meaning discrimination is impossible. It varies from trial to trial but both glass patterns always have the same contrast level.

Do you know if this is another bug?

Thanks,

Adam

Re: Glass patterns

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:17 pm
by arijit
Hello Admin,

I tried generating glass pattern with the above instruction. I have adopted a staircase method with nAFC approach, so that I can measure a threshold. I wanted to have a presentation of two side by side stimuli in a random order(one with glass pattern and the other one without glass pattern) with vertical split. But unfortunately I ended up in having two similar glass patterns with a vertical split. Could you please help me in getting which I actually want. I am not sure whether to make any changes in the coding of the "custom" section.

It would be great if you could provide me a sequential instructions with a couple of screenshots.

Cheers

Arijit